Archive for February, 2012

Now that I am getting more comfortable with the trolls it isn’t quite the brain drain it was and hopefully I will be getting some pics soon. There are no pics here though, sorry.

So, last club day at Emerald Knights I ended up watching more than playing just because a few people needed to get in their team games and I didn’t really feel like doing another one. I did, however, get in a game against Josh playing his Menoth army. We played a 35 point game and I ran a couple of units that I had just finished (note to self – don’t play with all new models).

I was going with an eGrissel tier for no reason other than finally finishing up that unit of kriel warriors that I have been hunting down forever and the newly built horthol and max longriders. Also, our local PG was giving people a bonus league point for using the league selection so I took some whelp scrappers.

Army Name: eGrissel tier
Tier 2: Blockade Runners
34+6 points, 27 models

Grissel Bloodsong, Marshal of the Kriels +6 points
* Dire Troll Mauler 9 points
* Troll Axer 6 points
Horthol, Long Rider Hero 4 points
10 Kriel Warriors 6 points
* 1 Kriel Caber Thrower 1 point
* Kriel Warrior Standard & Piper 2 points
Troll Whelps 2 points
5 Trollkin Long Riders 10 points

Add +1 to your starting game roll.

I would love to have a War Wagon or two, but don’t and the same with the Sons of Bragg so I was stuck at tier 2. I’ll give my thoughts on the tier later.

Just to recap, I have played eGrissel and the axer fairly regularly, not used the Mauler since I picked up the Earthborn, and never used anything else in the list. Facing me across the table was Josh and his Tier 4 eSevvy list. I might screw some of this up but it is from memory (also, iBodger says he can’t have the sunburst crew in a tier list, I dunno):

Army Name: Josh eSeverius
Protectorate of Menoth
35+6 points, 43 models

Grand Scrutator Severius +6 points
* Blessing of Vengeance 7 points
* Revenger 6 points

4 Choir of Menoth 2 points
Deliverer Sunburst Crew 3 points
10 Deliverers 8 points
10 Temple Flameguard 6 points
* TFG Officer & Standard 2 points
10 Temple Flameguard 6 points
* TFG Officer & Standard 2 points
Vassal Mechanik 1 point

We ended up being a bit lazy and just doing a straight killbox mission. There was a hill in the center of the table on the right side and a forest just to the left of mid table (from my POV). That was really all the terrain that mattered.

Josh went first and ran everything forward and put the flameguard into typical triangle formation. He jammed one of them to the gap between the hill and the forest – we were using the wrecked shuttle from 40k as the hill and I kept thinking it was an obstacle despite us talking about so I kept viewing it as a bottle neck. Oops.

The other unit of flameguard ran around the other side of the woods to intercept Horthol.

My turn kriel warriors prayed for speed and ran up and jammed the “bottle neck”. Horthol moved full distance and the long riders lined up for a charge. Grissel and the Mauler and Axer advanced in a line behind them.

The center flameguard advanced a little bit and minifeated. Shooting killed a few kriel warriors and the lead toughalo but he toughed it out. Since I had though that stupid wrecked shuttle was an obstacle that toughalo screwed my follow up charges and slams so I was horribly out of position. Horthol charged and slammed the front line of flameguard and killed 2 or 3 that were set up for me and then he was charged and dismounted and then killed off over the next turn or so. Sevvy hit a pretty hard core ashes to ashes on my kriel warriors killing 5 of them including the guy next to the caber and the caber himself. Ugh. Must work on positioning…

The toughaloes were picked apart in a combination of jack charging and shooting.

My mauler got a charge on one of the triplets of flameguard and killed the lead 2 but then was killed in follow up shooting and charging. The axer charged the jacks and a couple of the flameguard and rolled a 3 and then a 4 for damage on his threshers. We joked that in about 10 turns he would be deadly. Obviously he died horribly.

Before I knew it, I was down to eGrissel and he was down 4 or 5 flameguard. Grissel decided to go out in a bang and charged Blessing of Vengeance and didn’t kill him (she missed twice despite needing 5s or something). Josh was a sport and pulled Blessing of Vengeance out of combat and charged Grissel with Severius. The Vice Grand High Mega Scrutator then put Grissel in the dirt with his last attack and she failed her tough.

Ouch. To paraphrase (and clean up a bit) a line from Fight Club, “I haven’t been worked that hard since fifth grade.”

Still, I did learn a lot. The biggest thing was, don’t try everything new. I have been doing a decent job of just rotating in single things into a list I am comfortable with to learn how they go. I know how to jam pretty well with fennblades and figured it wouldn’t be that different from kriel warriors (it is). A mauler is basically just like an earthborn (no, it isn’t). The toughaloes are like fennblades on steroids (wth was I thinking?)

My unfamiliarity with my models and their capabilities kept me from developing any kind of cohesive plan and I got whooped and deserved it. This game is far too unforgiving to just try and wing it, especially against a great opponent like Josh. So, I apologized to Josh for what a pretty unchallenging game and packed up. It was a good lesson to learn the hard way.

I may or may not have cried myself to sleep.


Was able to get in a few Gnarl league games over the past week or so and just haven’t had time to update this – all games were scenario and SR2012 are marked as such. SR2012 are done with appropriate time restrictions though we tend to be a bit more relaxed about extensions.

I read someone else on one of the posts was talking about a quick journal of their games – I am going to try that rather than the lengthy batreps I typically do, just since my time is so limited. I am only going back a week or so because any more than that gets a bit foggy for me.

I have been sticking with the same list for a while just to kind of stabilize the focus and experience I get from playing them. The 35 point list for all games was:

Grissel Bloodsong, Marshal of the Kriels +6 points
* Earthborn Dire Troll 10 points
* Swamp Troll 4 points
* Troll Axer 6 points

Fell Caller Hero 3 points
Janissa Stonetide 3 points
10 Pyg Burrowers 6 points
Stone Scribe Chronicler 2 points
6 Trollkin Scattergunners 5 points
* Scattergunner Officer & Standard 2 points

For 25 points I just basically used what was on the table with a few cuts and adding an impaler. This list is FAR from finished and far from good, really, but it was against a new player on league night so I didn’t really care too much about making a super competitive list.

Grissel Bloodsong, Marshal of the Kriels +6 points
* Earthborn Dire Troll 10 points
* Troll Axer 6 points
* Troll Impaler 5 points

Janissa Stonetide 3 points
6 Trollkin Scattergunners 5 points
* Scattergunner Officer & Standard 2 points

SR2012 35 point eGrissel vs. eStryker – Win by assassination. eStryker was forced to try an an assassination run since I was up on scenario points. He beat the snot out of eGrissel, but she had 3 fury and an undamaged Swamp Troll. At the end of the run, Swampy was dead and she had taken 6 points of splash damage. She was then able to put Stryker down. Big lesson learned this time is that even when you think Stryker has a long attack range, you are probably underestimating it.

SR2012 35 point eGrissel vs. eStryker – Win by assassination. eStryker was playing a bit more cagey this game. I had an EBDT charge an arcane shielded Stormclad but didn’t really do much. A force to stand burned a fury and I think that was the big deal. I should probably have waited a trn. I put good money after bad and charged in with the axer who did nothing. Grissel popped feat eStryker was feeling plucky so did just 1d6 overboost and took 3 for only 2 strength which my feat had basically negated. Stryker was unable to finish the deal so the Stormclad returned the earthborne to the dirt from whence he came and turned on the axer, knocking out his spirit. Fell caller hit Grissel with warcry. Janissa advanced and slid the Stormclad out of the way, Grissel healed the axer’s spirit just in case before charging. She got Stryker down to 1 or 2 and the axer had to finish up for her (which he did). The big learning point here was that Stryker should go big or go home when overboosting.

SR2012 35 point eGrissel vs. Rahn – Win by assassination. Janissa’s wall was instrumental in thwarting push/pull shenanigans. Rahn was very hurt by turn 2 dash burrowers ignoring free strikes but not killed. Inhositable Ground is very good against Ret. This forced Shawn to play prett defensively with him and I was able to clear out the sentinels. EBDT jammed on a bunch of sentinels and the combination of Grissel’s feat and a nearby wall let him survive the non-charge retaliation. In the end it was dashed, buffed dygmies that gave Rahn something else to brood about. This was Shawn’s first time seeing the dygmies and I don’t expect them to be so effective next time around with him.

35 point eGrissel vs. eButcher tier – Loss on scenario. So many doomreavers… I had a couple of hot run on tough rolls and inhospitable ground really earned its keep – the crescendo template was also really good. The dygmies went for a turn 2 assassination run on eButcher but had crap rolls with the guns and couldn’t hit or get through armor. The scenario we were playing had the reinforcements artifice which we chose not to use but I could really have used something coming in from the side to contest a zone. As it was, going first still didn’t get me up close enough and then with all those AD doomreavers running into it pretty much sealed the deal. This game has me looking back at the krielstone instead of swampy – on feat turn my axer might have weathered the doom reavers he was engaged with and contesting the zone and the same with the EBDT.

25 point eGrissel vs. pDenny – Win on assassination. This was an interesting one because I have neither played nor written up any 25 point lists before. I decided to mostly just shuffle points down out of my usual 35 point list and that didn’t go well. I basically ended up running my scattergunners like kriel warriors. I ended up winning after the axer frenzied which killed the arc nodel tying up both him and the EBDT. The impaler put his animus on himself and advanced and crit slammed a model through denny which knocked her down and the EBDT was rushed by Grissel and went over and finished the job thanks to an unexpected 4 extra inches of movement. It was my first time facing Darraghe Wrathe and his light cav so it was fun.

I also had to get in two team games for the league in order to get the patch. Since I am the only Minions player I went ahead and did that for the official team up with Shawn’s Retribution of Scyrah which technically violates the year of the Trollblood but I am okay with it since it was 2 one off games for the league. The list I took for both games was:

Sturm and Drang
2x War Hogs
4 Bone Grinders

Shawn brought a Rahn list and we faced off against pGaspy and Kara Sloan. Rahn did what Rahn does and pulled Kara’s light jack across the table on turn 1 and then smashed it with the Phoenix, the Cygnar player ended up mostly sparring with Shawn until the last turn of the game when Kara popped feat and should have blown Sturm and Drang off the table save for a couple of horrible rolls. Gaspy swarmed the center of the table with infantry. Drang then goaded the two warhogs in an impressive display of goading violence killed the necrotech, most of the mech thralls and even a couple of Satyxis Raiders. I lost one of the warhogs but the other was able to clear the middle of the table on one side as the Phoenix cleared Kara’s infantry leaving us in control of the center of the table and the win. We did rush the end a bit so we could get in the second league game.

For this game I found myself teamed up with the Gaspy player (the limited factions in our league allow a few leniancies on pairing) again Ryan’s pStyker list with a battle engine and the Denny player from before with basically the same list just pared down to fit in. This game was very rushed, but the combo of Denny’s feat and the Cygnar shooting killed one war hog and basically neutralyzed the other. We ran out of time because the game store was closing and it ended in a draw. While it wasn’t hopeless the other side definitely had the advantage.